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Hey guys wassup? ... Why has everyone dissapeared from here? I was a little busy with work etc so couldn't start this thread earlier ... Come on guys do post your ideas and picks here

We have a good deal of corrections in the markets & valuations are starting to look a little better again (not attractive yet). It is time to find new strategies to go long now in various counters. Meanwhile NIFTY shorts are giving very good returns almost everyday; Am sure YK will agree with me

BTW, YK am going to find that resource you had asked for & post it to you in a day or 2 (was a little busy the past week or so)

Markets have recovered most of yesterday's losses today but mostly it should be range bound between 4400 & 5000 for the next few weeks as I see it. Hope to post more soon

I still think markets will be down for another week. Rebounds around 10-13 November. I faced  a lot of problems in my home computer like GBC hanging and all. Thankfully I have not migrated to MS11. RELCAP has pulled me down(cash) and maybe I should have liquidated at 930-950 but my broken link cost me dearly. Part of the game. I shall be more regular now.

Asahai bhai Welcome back ... Good to see u

You have stuck to that date haan?... It's funny how at times when some one says something as innocous as mentioning a date & it simply stays with you at the back of your mind; these days Am also involuntarily looking at that date of 10th November ... lol

If you ever need MS 11 just let me know, will be glad to help u there

Despite the smart bounce back in the bourses today, there is a lot of bearishness when one looks at the charts of almost all the scrips. This downward momentum is very secular & across the sectors except probably PHARMA & IT sectors. This downward momentum is more pronounced in Banking, Telecom & Realty scrips. One can easily take short positions in any of these stocks so I wont specifically mention scrips.One can also play the NIFTY swings which are giving great returns these days

Here are a couple of contrarian "buy" signals which can be taken with a pinch of salt (& a great deal of caution)

JETAIRWAYS >>> Is giving some strong technical buy signals... One can take small risks in the cash market since it is not possible to take positions in the F&O side on this counter .... Caution: Fundamentals are weak & many a times indicators have been lagging rather than leading price action in this counter

IOB >>> is another contrarian buy that one can take as a risk in the F&O side with strict stop losses

IOB >>> Target hit within 1 hour of trade from the days lows! ... It probably still has legs to go ahead, but I would be happy to book profits even at cmp (105.15)

JETAIRWAYS >>> has gained about 4 odd percent but was difficult to trade as it opened almost at that level

Hi Praveen

I'll be back soon. It's you only who makes this forum tick.

Cheers!

Sell on Rise.

Praveen patil at 02:17PM on Nov 04, 2009

Asahai bhai Welcome back ... Good to see u

 

You have stuck to that date haan?... It's funny how at times when some one says something as innocous as mentioning a date & it simply stays with you at the back of your mind; these days Am also involuntarily looking at that date of 10th November ... lol

 

If you ever need MS 11 just let me know, will be glad to help u there

 

Despite the smart bounce back in the bourses today, there is a lot of bearishness when one looks at the charts of almost all the scrips. This downward momentum is very secular & across the sectors except probably PHARMA & IT sectors. This downward momentum is more pronounced in Banking, Telecom & Realty scrips. One can easily take short positions in any of these stocks so I wont specifically mention scrips.One can also play the NIFTY swings which are giving great returns these days

 

 

Here are a couple of contrarian "buy" signals which can be taken with a pinch of salt (& a great deal of caution)

 

JETAIRWAYS >>> Is giving some strong technical buy signals... One can take small risks in the cash market since it is not possible to take positions in the F&O side on this counter .... Caution: Fundamentals are weak & many a times indicators have been lagging rather than leading price action in this counter

 

IOB >>> is another contrarian buy that one can take as a risk in the F&O side with strict stop losses

No I am not stuck with the date. I did some time calculations based on Gann and it indicated a date around 10th. When I calculated the date it was unimaginable to have these levels. The markets were just pushing up. Do you remember when I asked if anyone saw any indications however remote. That was in first week of October. Still I had to see if the improbable happened. I still believe the markets have to touch 4500 by Monday.

I am still in the process of shifting to Canara Bank  for trading account. I had very bad experience with ICICI Bank and Canara Bank so far has not proved better.

Regardless of the market direction there is plenty of money to be made everyday as YK said. I hope to re-join trading before the stocks bounce back.

Allo

I updated my database finally and have applied the template I made with YK indicators. It gave some excellent sell signals while I was living at the edge of the market. Hope to catch the rebound.

Praveen how good is MS11? You said you had to redraw your templates etc. Is it drastically better than 10.1? I inquired them for upgrda eto MS 11 RT and they said I must buy the package with data.

has anyone tried torrent website for MS10 RT? It downloads as torrent file and one must download another patch to run the torrent file. Is it safe? I shall try it on another computer as I dont want my legit license to get corrupted.

Allo at 12:20PM on Nov 05, 2009

Praveen how good is MS11? You said you had to redraw your templates etc. Is it drastically better than 10.1? I inquired them for upgrda eto MS 11 RT and they said I must buy the package with data.

has anyone tried torrent website for MS10 RT? It downloads as torrent file and one must download another patch to run the torrent file. Is it safe? I shall try it on another computer as I dont want my legit license to get corrupted.

r u asking aboutms10 with real time data? if yes then i've not done that, but have done for the 10.1 pro version, though i havent used any torrent but some blog site.

dont know about what patch exactly are u talking about, but generally they give the 'mswin' cracked file (with some reverse eng)as a seperate attachment. when u install ur program, u got to replace ur original mswin, with this one to really get going.

if ur having a fixed ip, then usining a cracked source for realtime data may get u some trouble, but i dont think anyone can do anything other than banning ur ip. if u dont have a fixed, but a dynamic ip, then even that is futile. anyway changing computers wont be necessay, cause no one can ban a comp, i mean it hasent got a seperate ip or signature of its make or model !!

yeah, nd me too would love to find about ms11. if the only addition is fundamental news, then i guess all they have done is to give direct links to reuters site for every stock! but im plain just imagining.

Hi Allo

It's been long to interact with you.

Good to know that you are home in a new city.

May i know the city and why u prefer trading a/c from banks and not from professional brokers?

As for trading system - i'll be happy only if it is proving fruitful to any of you and you people are able to 'pluck some of the good piece of fruits' from it.

As going EOD on this system is not possible on most of the charts (these days) - i'll encourage to go intraday on 3/5/10/15/Hrly charts. It's really fetching me moons & stars  these days.

Cheers!

Hey you all

Pl enlighten me on the + points of MS. I have used it earlier, but i was not convinced as much as by Ami. Is really cracked version of MS providing relaible free realtime data?

I really do not get much time on searching/researching on these matters.

Yk at 01:00PM on Nov 05, 2009

Hey you all

Pl enlighten me on the + points of MS. I have used it earlier, but i was not convinced as much as by Ami. Is really cracked version of MS providing relaible free realtime data?

I really do not get much time on searching/researching on these matters.

well cracked or otherwise,ms functions the same. as for realtime data, u have the comprehensive (nd sticky ) post of praveen. it will work with any software or version or whatever, all the same.

Dear YK, Asahai & Maxx

MS v/s AMIBROKER is like say Microsoft windows v/s Linux or something similar. I had once used AMI just for a few hours but found it a lot more complicated and not very visually appealing (that is entirely my personal feeling of course). Once you start using Metastock, you just simply get addicted to it and can never be comfortable with any other TA tool -- That is the general assesment. Having said that, I have been told by many AMI users that it is actually more maneuverable than MS, is that true YK? I find the formula language of MS very simple & logical which makes it easy to build your own indicators, explorers etc and ofcourse the visual appeal of the charts is a lot better in MS which makes TA a fun thing. As for cracked versions of MS, they are as good as the propriety ones so there should be no reason why one should shell out a hefty amount of money to get hold of it, as pointed out by Maxxy already.

Now coming to metastock 11; well, it is not different from the previous versions at all. The only additions are about 20-30 new set of indicators and the rest is just the same. The one issue I faced in this upgrade was that most of my indicators and templates (that I had created ) from 10.1 did not function on this so I had to recreate them which is not all that tedious after all. Unfortunately, the cracked MS 11 as of now is only the e-signal version so no Fundamental analysis window is available (it only comes bundled with the Quote-center versions), so I do not know how that FA tool actually functions. I hope to get hold of that FA bundle soon and test it and i really really hope it is more than just a link to some news service as MAXXY imagines. If any of you is using value shark with spyglass then you are already using FA on Metastock

As for the torrent of Metastock version 11, I have myself uploaded a torrent which you can search in any torrent searching tool & downoad. It is about 209 MB & works as good as any Metastock 11 e-signal version with unlimited copyright

woo pravin,

man,

now we are having some forum

Dear Praveen

Can't say much abt MS. Only point excited me that a fully cracked one can provide RT data feeds too.

Amibroker gives me much more flexibility. I can draw my thoughts almost in any way in Amibroker. It is bundled with a lot of low level/high level lib. functions. Also any Object of Ami can be programmed in any way.

Yes, for non-programmer its language(AFL)can look a bit complicated which is not the case with MS. But this very complication ,in fact, provides flexibility or in ur words 'maneuverability'.  You can draw charts/indicator(s) almost in any 'weird' style - no problem. 

Having said that - i'm no authority here to upgrade/downgrade MS or Ami. I know - those who are using MS are not kids. It's only that i'm unknown to the potential of MS. And for no./type of indicators - i suppose MS is 'wealthier' than Ami. But i don't pay much attention to inbuilt/well known indicators - as people look at those same well-known indicators which makes them Fool time and again. Rather, i use some of them in modified/customized way.

Again it's not that the those indicators are impotent - it's that game is played by THEM so as to make those indicators Null & Void. (Other wise how will THEY loot money ?).

Recently - i came across an article - i would like to present some of the lines (as it is with some editing) of the article here -

"THESE MAFIA (in Yk's terms those very Big People) ARE SPREAD LIKE VIRUS … THE ENTIRE WORLD IS NOW @ THEIR HAND… THEY MANUPLATE EVERY HOURS ACTIVITY TO TRAP INNOCENTS… **&$%**  THEY ARE WELL PLANNED AND THEY ARE SUCH IN A LARGE THAT THEY CAN DESTROY ANY CONTRY’S ECONOMY.

INDIAN BOURCES DAILY TURNOVER IS APPROX 1,00,000 CRORE, MEANS APPROX. 15,00,000 CRORE PER MONTH, IF THESE SMART MAFIA SQUEEZ 10% TO 15% EVERY MONTH THEN THEY EARN 1,50,000 CRORE TO 2,00,000 CRORE PER MONTH BASIS, , THE BUDGET (Indian) DEFICITS IS SMALLER AGAINST THEIR HUGE PROFITS.

NOW, ANY ONE’S MIND CAN THOGHT THAT, OUR SEBI’S ACTION TO IN-HANCE TRADING TIME 9AM TO 5PM IS A PART OF THESE MAFIA’S – IS THEY PURCHASE ENTIRE SYSTEM AND MAKE ALL ANNOUNCEMENT IN THEIR OWN FAVOUR ???????????????

AS I AM A STUDENT OF TECHNICAL ANALYSIS, I ASSUME THAT THESE MAFIA FULL FOCUS ON MAKING WRONG ALL TECHNICAL ANALYST. DOW THEORY, EW THEORY, GANN THEORY ALL ARE HELP LESS, AS A TERM OF FIBONACCI –  WE ALWAYS FIND / SEARCH SUPPORTS.. BUT THESE MAFIA CHANGE THE GAME RULES…

NOW,NIFTY FALL 10%  AND SHARE REACTS 35% TO 50%, IN A BULL RUN (WE ARE YET AT BULL PHASE) 72 SHARES HIT 52 WEEK LOWS INSTEAD OF NIFTY 10% FALLING… !!!!!!

IN NUT SHELL, THESE MAFIA KNOWS TRADER’S PULSE AND THEY DO ALL THEIR ACTIVITY AGAINST THE TREND  AND INDICATIONS, EVEN THEY ALWAYS TRY TO CLOSE NIFTY PRICES AT THEIR TECHNICAL SUPPORT LEVAL, SO ALL ARE CONFUSED AT END OF THE DAY. "

Please excuse me - but i too always ponder upon the fact that despite people having good knowledge of TA and other related things - why they loose? Or why they can't carve out from most of their position?

And i always think like that.

Happy Trading.

Yk at 12:46PM on Nov 05, 2009

Hi Allo

It's been long to interact with you.

Good to know that you are home in a new city.

May i know the city and why u prefer trading a/c from banks and not from professional brokers?

As for trading system - i'll be happy only if it is proving fruitful to any of you and you people are able to 'pluck some of the good piece of fruits' from it.

As going EOD on this system is not possible on most of the charts (these days) - i'll encourage to go intraday on 3/5/10/15/Hrly charts. It's really fetching me moons & stars  these days.

Cheers!

Hi Yk,

Its not a new city. Its my own city Lucknow. I have returned after sometime and plan to settle here now. I somehow am not comfortable with professional brokers simply because I never checked their offerings. I have been with integrated account of ICICI and as the same is now available with Canara Bank I would like to go with the, Suggest some other broker please. How do they credit our bank after selling shares? Which broker is best? I am considering Geojit BNP also.

I am still using EOD as my MS is not upgraded yet to RT. Equis informed me that I must also buy their data alongwith upgare to MS RT.

I plan to download torrent MS RT on a separate comp(to avoid messing with my legitimate MS 10) and check if it is working.

BTW Canara Bank is quite like ICICI Bank as their designated branch(on the net for OL trading) refused to open my account!!! Still trying. Thanks to ICICI Direct I have learnt to try again and again.

I will side with MS. I tried AMI long time before deciding MS vs AB and settled for MS. Price wise AB is almost same and also looks appealing but I didnt like the trial versions limitations. Like Praveen said MS gives me a better feel and I will stay with it. Presently unlike you guys I am with EOD and plan to change to RT.

I am now goiing to search and install MS 10 RT and use the RT data in an earlier post.

Dear Allo

Now it's nice that you are now in your home town and  i guess in your home. 

I don't know abt the facilities provided by those banks in share trading. Professional brokers (i suppose) offers better flexibility than them.

U have to open a dmat a/c with them and deposit money (or online/realtime transfer) for trading. They charge lower brokerage on transactions made by a/c holders(their clients). Like i have my with India Infoline. On intraday trade they charge me 0.01% on transactions and 0.03% on holding basis. (However, their regular charge is 0.03% on intraday basis).

You can talk to them for a better bargain too on the brokerage they charge. Additionally they provide facility to take trade beyond ur a/c capacity. Like IIFL gives me capacity of 80% additional money of whatever i have in my a/c with them to take (intraday) trade. And on holding basis i can not exceed 40% of my a/c capacity.

With that (depending on brokerage firm) they provide trading terminals using which u can take trade while sitting in your home/office (even from anywhere - if you have a wireless net connection and laptop) on your own.

For such brokerage firms - few names are there like India InfoLine, ShareKhan, IndiaBulls with a lot others.

In your city i'm sure all of them are there. You can simply talk to them on facilties they are ready to provide.

Happy Trading.

Maxxy welcome aboard  ... The more the merrier, let us share all the resources (hacked or otherwise) in these forums ... Now it is mature enough to appreciate such subtleties

YK! as always you are spot on assessing those forces that have taken over or are going to take over the world economy. It is always a better bet to believe that the financial jungle is full of conspiracy angles because that keeps us on our toes and we will make less mistakes. I always like your assesment of those big fat men so keep it coming

"INDIAN BOURCES DAILY TURNOVER IS APPROX 1,00,000 CRORE, MEANS APPROX. 15,00,000 CRORE PER MONTH, IF THESE SMART MAFIA SQUEEZ 10% TO 15% EVERY MONTH THEN THEY EARN 1,50,000 CRORE TO 2,00,000 CRORE PER MONTH BASIS, , THE BUDGET (Indian) DEFICITS IS SMALLER AGAINST THEIR HUGE PROFITS. "

That is one helluva suggestion! Just imagine the kind of money that is involved there; it is more than India's defence spend! it is half as much as Pakistan's GDP!! it is equivalant to the entire take by drug cartels in ASIA every year!!!

Just imagine the kind of global conspiracy that must be going on behind the scenes with national governments, political parties, global conglomorates all involved to simply make more money every day at the bourses!

Whatever the if's & but's one can't be any less cautious with such scenarios ... It should act as a good warning for us traders not to put all our eggs in the TA basket. But then do we have any other way? Yk, what do u suggest as a solution to beat these big fat men in their own game?

Coming to brokerage firms, I think they are always better than banks because they are specialists and also provide better speed and services for trading.

I am impressed with India Infoline brokerage fees, especially with that 80 & 40% additional capacity. YK is that service for all clients or only for long standing ones?

Asahai,

Am happy for you @ return to LUCKNOW... I have always had this hugely romantic notion about that city with its culture, poetry, culinary & the whole ambience. I had been to LUCKNOW about 20 odd years ago but have been told that it has changed a lot (mostly for the worse), so I do not know for sure if it is still the same old walled city... In any case have a great time there